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War of Odinium War of OdiniumDate of the event Member Selection Preparation before starting Basic Knowledge Explanation of various facilities flow of battle Date of the event Basically held on Saturdays 23 00 JST, 22 00 server-time, 14 00 GMT The duration of the match is 1 hour (the actual end time is a little more than 1 hour due to the grace time for transitioning to the battlefield area immediately after the start). ※ Depending on the timing of the application, the program may be full and the desired date and time cannot be selected. Member Selection Automatically selected from those with the highest combat power. After that, only federation leader can replace members (until the partner is decided). R4 members will consider who can get in at the time of the match, and combat power, and make replacements. If members want to join, let us know in advance and we will try to accommodate them as much as possible. Preparation before starting Note that the following must be met to enter No units dispatched to resource areas, etc. No creation or repair units. No destroyed units. Decide on the type of military equipment (you can t switch inside). Decide on the unit s skills (they cannot be switched inside). If you possess Amelia, use the skill before entering (it may be cut off by movement. However, since it is not available on the battlefield, it is better to use it as a talisman) Basic Knowledge Members and units available to participate Up to 30 people can participate in the battlefield area. If the first member does not reach 30 participants, the second member can join a little later than the start time. Unlike SvS and KE, damaged units can be repaired (but not created) only with repair acceleration items or diamonds. All damaged units will be repaired free of charge once the WoO is completed. Those without repair acceleration items or diamonds may leave the battlefield area to allow a second member to enter (if there are less than 30 people, they may watch the battle). Points to be gained Points are earned by destroying enemies. Points are awarded for occupying each facility. Stationing units in occupied facilities earns points based on the amount of time they are stationed there. To fully occupy the area, it must be held without being occupied by the opponent for two minutes after the start of the occupation. Points are awarded to the last federation/player to reduce the durability value of bomb trucks dropped at regular intervals to zero. You can get mining points at diamond mines, but you need to be careful enough to avoid being attacked by opponents. On the relay area as the starting point of the attack Once a relay area is completely occupied, the number of times it can be relocated increases at regular intervals. The number of times this relocation is possible makes it possible to teleport to the relay area. To teleport to a relay area, a unit must be dispatched to that relay area once. The number of possible transfers is stocked to a maximum of 20. In order to retain the relay area, the mechanic must transfer with strong units dispatched to the relay area and build strengthening and weakening facilities. If the opponent is strong, he may attack this relay area immediately, so it is necessary to hurry up the construction of facilities. If the base is occupied by the opponent after moving to the relay area, the base may be attacked directly. Where you are after the battle starts, your base will not be attacked. If you are about to be attacked by a base in a relay area, it is better to teleport away. If the transfer cannot be completed in time, it is advisable to prevent total loss of units by sending all units to nearby facilities to escape (especially in the second half of the year) When your forces are not sufficient, it is safer not to shift to the relay area because you will not be attacked by the base. Facility effects obtained from the occupation The Dark Empire Science Center is a facility that you want to keep occupied along with the relay area because it has "+20% damage for all units". About Bomb Truck Every 7 minutes, a support bomb truck is dropped into the center of the map (if I m wrong about the time, I m sorry). Attacking a bomb truck (or even one unit) can reduce the durability value by 5%. The last player to reduce the endurance value to 0% will receive 400 points and the federation will receive 1000 points (it is best to aim well so that it is the last attack). When the truck s durability value reaches zero, it slowly moves to a facility occupied by the opposing federation, and when it reaches the facility, it explodes, damaging the unit by 20% and forcing all units to retreat. If they are deployed where the bomb trucks are headed, they need to be withdrawn immediately. If all facilities are occupied and you get the bomb truck right, it explodes on the spot and nothing happens (you get points) How to Engage with Strong Enemies If the opponent is strong, it is advisable to retreat when the march line is displayed on the occupied facility, because if you lose, your units will be damaged and fewer units will be able to participate Even if the opponent occupies a facility, there are often no or only a few units stationed there, so inspect and confirm before attacking. Explanation of various facilities Facility Name ICON Effects Points earned Map Mini First continuing occupation Fortification -- Fed. 120Per. 30 Fed. 50/minPer. 20/min Relay area Area of possible base relocation1transfer/180 sec(Max 20) Fed. 150Per. 50 Fed. 50/minPer. 20/min Forwarddeployedbase -- Fed. 300Per. 100 Fed. 100/minPer. 40/min the Dark EmpireScience Center Increased damage to all units +20 Fed. 150Per. 60 Fed. 50/minPer. 20/min the Dark EmpireCommand Post Wilderness advance speed +20% Fed. 150Per. 60 Fed. 50/minPer. 20/min Resource 1 diamond/1 min(Individual point accumulation) -- -- bomb track Decrease the durability value by 5% for each attack.Finally, if the durability value is reduced to 0,20% damage is inflicted on the opponent s facility,causing it to retreat. Last atackFed. 1000、Per. 400 flow of battle Start of battle (2-minute grace period) If you are on the blue team, you will be shifted to the top of the screen, and if you are on the red team, you will be shifted to the bottom. Enter the battlefield area as soon as it starts and you will be given a 2-minute grace period Search and inspect during the grace period and share players with 3 heroes and high strength. Commencement of combat Immediately after the battle, dispatch units to relay areas and nearby fortifications Once the relay area is fully occupied, the mechanics will transition and build strengthening and weakening facilities. (There is also the possibility of transitioning the strong first. This area is still in limbo)
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FAQ FAQ official answers compilation ** Traslated from Spanish , help welcome for a correct translation. FAQ INTRODUCTION GAME MECHANICS BALLISTIC SKILLS (BS) CLOSE COMBAT (CC) ADVANCED COMBAT HACKING HUMAN SPHERE EXPANSION RULES CHARACTERISTICS SKILLS WEAPONRY EQUIPMENT TERRAIN TYPES INTRODUCTION Miniature Scale and Representation Distances and measures Equipment required to begin Preparation How to organize a battlefield Deployment zone THE TROOPS Types of units Troop Clasification How to organize an Army Explanation of unit data GAME MECHANICS Line of Fire (LOF) While a model moves, what is its LOF? When the model is moving it acts as it has 360-degrees field of vision.It represents the tactical awareness of a trained professional soldier and also those technological and futuristic tactical devices of the Infinity background. [WWW]Link to this answer in the forum Can I have LOF to a Camouflage Marker? " It could block LOF? Camouflage Markers don t block the LOF. Therefore, the LOF rule uses the term "figures." In terms of game, a camo troop is almost as if he were not there as it is doing everything possible to stay just outside the LOF. A Camouflage Marker represents a "ping" in the comlog, or a little itch at the back that tells the troops that "there might be something, or not." Therefore, the Marker and its height (equivalent to an army basic line troop) are unrelated to the true dimensions of the figure camouflaged (Cutter serve as an example, higher than a line troop, or the Antipodes, lower), it just indicates an approximated area on where you can apply the skill Discover. How should the LOF drawn from those figures that have been sculpted in a crouching position? To trace the LOF of crouching figures,replace by the base troop figure of the same army (Fusiliers, Zhanshi, Line Kazaks, Ghulam, Alguacil, Morat Infantry / Shasvastii Seed Soldier), the one whose position is the more upright. How is cover determined for the miniature? Does it has to cover 50, 25, 30% of the miniature (it s base) or I just can slightly touch it with the base? Graphic examples from the official Quick Reference Sheet cover.jpg Do the shrubs and other "soft" scenery elements provides cover? No, but they could be considered areas of Low Visibility Zones, when this has been determined by mutual agreement of the players, preferably before starting to play. Zone of Control (ZC) Dice rolls Types of Dice Rolls Player turns and game turns Order and Order Reserve ARO Order spending and ARO procedures Deployment and Initiative Can I deploy my troop with Impersonation engaged in Close Combat with an enemy troop? No. You can not deploy directly engaged in Close Combat, no matter if you use the Impersonation Special Skill, infiltration,Mechanized Deployment, Airborne Deployment (AD), etc. Can I deploy a miniature in Prone position in the Deployment Phase? In the Deployment Phase when the player is placing the figures in the game table, those troops that can be deployed Prone are allowed to deployed in the Prone position. To do that, a Prone Mark must be placed beside the corresponding miniature or Marker (CH Camouflage, TO...). If it is a troop with the CH Camouflage or TO Special Skills, then the Prone state must be noted on the same paper in which the position of the miniature has been noted in the game table. Are army lists hidden? You may keep secret who your Lieutenant is, what troops you retain in Hidden Deployment, what troops you have kept in reserve for AD troops disguised with Holoprojector level 1 and 2 and what Camouflage Markers (TO or normal) hide beneath them, everything else is open. BALLISTIC SKILLS (BS) In which case is a shot considered Speculative? When a Template weapon (Warning we mean a Template weapon, not a Direct Template weapon) is shot against a model, which is the target of that shot, and the center of the Template is not placed over the targeted figure, then a Speculative Shot is performed and the BS-6 Modifier must be applied. In other words, if (for example) the grenade is not going to fall over the targeted figure, but behind it or just besides it, at a point on the battlefield (but, of course, affecting the figure with the Template), then it is considered a Speculative Shot. In this situation, in which the grenade doesn t fall over the target, the Speculative Shot Modifier, BS-6, is always applied, even if there is LOF with the target or not; even having LOF, not placing the center of the Template over the targeted miniature means the shot is considered Speculative. This maneuver is very useful, for example, when facing a figure with TO Camouflage behind a Partial Cover just placing the center of the Template in a point of the game table where the Template affects the figure while avoiding the Cover, we must apply only the BS-6 Modifier by Speculative Shot, and the Distance Modifier too, while with a normal shot we must also apply the BS-6 Modifier by TO Camouflage and Cover Modifier. Can I put a Suppression Fire directly affecting an Impersonator? No, you can not. While the impersonator is not discovered , it is considered a friendly troop and you can not attack a friendly troop directly ( see LOF rule. But if the impersonator crosses a SF, it will receive the shots. Can I put a Suppression Fire affecting one Camouflage or TO Marker? Yes. But... If you put a Suppression Fire on an area where you suspect it´s a figure in Hidden Deployment, you can not shoot until the troop is revealed. With Suppression Fire, you control the area to prevent that troop to move or act. So, if the troop is activated and reveals himself, you can shoot your full B Basically, Suppression Fire does not reveal the figure in Hidden Deployment, contrary to what happens with a successful Intuitive Attack against a Marker. Even in ARO, the Camouflage in Movement rule indicates that If a Camouflage Marker does not perform anything but MOV in his turn, even if it crosses a Suppression Fire zone or a figure s ZC, the only ARO that can be executed against it is Discover or Change Facing. Can I put a Suppression Fire in short range, thus avoiding hitting friendly troops beyond my target? You can not put a Suppression Fire at distances less than Long range. This means that if you do the following "I put a Suppression Fire at a distance of 14 inches. My troops will move at 20 inches behind this point", the Suppression Fire does not stop within 14 inches,continues to Long distance , so that these miniatures will receive the full Burst of his partner ... Can I change weapons while I´m doing Suppression Fire ? No. Suppression Fire (SF) uses the usual BS Attack declaration The player declares how and with what weapon, therefore to declare the Suppression Fire you must indicate which weapon is being used and while the SF still active, the figure uses that weapon. If the player did not specify the weapon to be used (wrong!) Then he must use the main weapon. For example, if the troops has a Combi Rifle + Grenade launcher, he uses the Combi Rifle. With MULTI weapons, the player may choose the type of ammunition to be used. Can I use Direct Template Weapons (Flamethrower, Chain Rifle, Nanopulser ...) with Suppression Fire ? No, you can not use such weapons with Suppression Fire. CLOSE COMBAT (CC) When a troop disengages from Close Combat, which direction should it be facing? After disengaging from Close Combat, the mini may be facing toward where the player prefers. Once engaged in Close combat, there is no back. When engaged in CC, the minis are not quiet, they are looking for each other, they are moving around (in the space represented by the base) in a chaotic battle of non-stop pushing and shoving. Could attacking from behind have some effect on the Close Combat? No. For example, you can read in Close Combat with several enemies that you must perform a Face to Face Roll against all enemies at once (while dodging or attacking). So placing a miniature behind another has no effect. Would making a CC against Immobilized troops would be considered a Coup de Grace, killing automatically without CC and ARM rolls? No, if the figure is Immobilized, the enemy must roll CC and the target must make an ARM roll (if CC is a success). This situation has its advantages Normal Roll rather than a Face-to-Face roll, and there is no possible defense bonus ... Coup de Grâce is very specific it requires that the figure be in Unconscious state. Can I do a Dodge to make a Charge into Close Combat during ARO? Yes, you can do a movement, which will be a Dodge, to get into base contact. But you will need another ARO to make a CC attack . Can a troop do a charge ( to engage in Close Combat ) with a Camouflage or TO Marker? Can Markers avoid the troops even they were located at a point where any movement passes over them? ( door / narrower corridor ,as example) You can not get into base contact with a Camouflage or TO Marker. If the Marker is obstructing the passage through a doorway or narrow corridor, then the figures will go through the Marker by ignoring it. As mentioned above, the Special Skill not only includes technology but also the knowledge and ability to be out of sight. The figure, who is not exactly there, could have jumped to the frame of the door or floor temporally or just have moved to avoid colliding with the enemies. Can I shoot a Template Weapon into a Close Combat? You can, performing a Parabolic Fire, if there is an involuntary Dispersion. Directly? ... It depends, is there an ally in the Close Combat ? (Might not be, if we are in a battle with more than 2 players) If there are no allies in the CC (something quite possible in a confrontation with 3 armies, for example) then yes, you can place the Template. If there are allied in that CC you can not put the template, since it would be making a direct attack on an allied figure that can not dodge, something that the regulations do not allow. Coordinated Order Damage Should Unconscious troops be removed from the battlefield if they can not be recovered (thanks to a Doctor, AutoMediKit or otherwise)? No, in fact if there is any reason to imply that they are still an asset in some aspect (troops with Booty or Striga Special Skill in the enemy list, for example) they should be kept on the battlefield. Morale and Leadership Victory Conditions ADVANCED COMBAT HACKING If the active player tries to hack, can I Hack Defensively with each of my 2-3 ,..., N hackers or just with one? You can react with each of your Hackers (ie, with N Hackers) Can I hack guided ammunition with a roll of each one of my n hackers? ( two hackers, 2 rolls, if I have N hackers , N rolls) You can indeed react with each of your Hackers. This mean that you can make N rolls, depending on the number of hackers that you own. How to respond to a coordinated hacking? Example A Ninja Hacker and a Celestial Guard Hacker coordinate to hack a Squalo. The PanOceania player has only one Kamau Hacker. Does that mean that the Kamau hacker can only defend against the ninja (who is the one who executed the attack) and the Celestial makes a normal roll against the Squalo BTS? Yes. When using Defensive Hacking against Coordinated Hacking, the reactive Hacker can only react to one of them. Therefore, the troop can only defend against one of the 2 enemy Hackers (in this case the Ninja) while the Celestial will make a Normal Roll modified by the Squalo BTS. Coordinated hacking adds to the normal Coordinated Order in that the Hacker in ZC is the only one capable of receiving the ARO of the objective. To do Support Hacking with EVO Repeater, do all hackers need to be in the same Combat Group ? No. It doesn t require all Hackers be part of the same Combat Group. They can belong to different Combat Groups. HUMAN SPHERE EXPANSION RULES Sectorial Armies Can troops from other armies take the rank of lieutenant in the sectorial armies ? For example, a Deva in the Neoterra Sectorial Army, a Mobile Brigade in the Khapu Qalqi or, also,a Santiago Knight in the Military Order of Montesa s list? Yes to both, but the glory and recognition is for the Sectorial or the Military Order not to the "outsider" Lieutenant Fireteams Link Troops When should we place the Team leader Marker? In each new Order we put him on the miniature we want without spending an order. / It must be placed at the beginning of the link and can not be touched without re-linking.... The marker that points to the linked group always accompanies the group. Before declaring the first half of the order, you have to put the marker next to the mini you want to be the leader, whose weapon you are using. This is, probably, the guy you want to shoot with help from the support team on the active turn. The marker is relocable at the beginning of each order at no additional cost. Do I have to inform the opponent which models are the Fireteam members who are linked, or can I keep the members a secret? When you create a Fireteam, you have to indicate who is in it. The adversary must be able to tell if the player is playing well (staying within the radius of 8 inches and so on). It is also important when trying to avoid confusion when there are many figures in the table Fireteams Active Turn Linked Team Order Description Fireteams Movement Skills Support Skills Support Bonuses If you have linked a troop with a disposable weapon, do the Support Bonuses also increases the Burst? The B can never exceed the amount of ammunition available, the B of a D.E.P. is always 1, for example. Fireteams Dodge Use of Support Bonuses or Dodge Changing the Team Leader Fireteams Reactive Turn Team Coherency Can a Remote servant be part of a Linked team ? A Remote Server can not be part of a Linked team , as the team members must belong to the same unit. If the Doctor / Engineer wants to activate it, he´ll be out of the Linked Team. Link Broken Does the link break before or after performing an action?I.e I make a coordinated order with part of the linked troops , so... a)with the advantages of the link and then the link is broken b)the link breaks first and then I can do the actions. The link breaks. A coordinated order is not an action you can make with a fire team . Imagine you have 5 fusiliers linked ( 1,2,3,4 and 5 as team leader). If you declare that 3 and 4 make a coordinated order to move and shoot, these fusiliers are outside the group and spend 2 orders to do so. They are acting independently. This applies to all, anyone who makes a coordinated will be "unlinked", including the team leader, all the links are broken. Create a new Linked Team Linkable Troops “Last figure standing” rule Scenery rule Rules for using civvies CHARACTERISTICS Back-up Instruction Fury SKILLS Common Skills What happens if you want to do a Cautious Movement and a TO have a LOF on you or even is in your ZoC? If the TO Camouflaged troop is represented by a TO Marker, the Cautious Movement is not allowed. If the TO Camouflaged troop is in Hidden Deployment then, the only way to prevent the Cautious Movement is to reveal it. If the Hidden TO camouflaged troop is not revealed, then the Cautious Movement can be performed. Is it possible to declare in an Order as the first skill " discover" and as a second skill "shot" to a camo or supplanted ( in State 2- Characterized)? Yes, it´s possible 1 - Active player declares first skill" discover" 2 - Reactive player could ARO. If the troop dodge or shoot or any act that discover itself, the active player does not have to roll to discover. 3 - Active player declares the second skill, shoot against the camouflaged / supplanted —3.1-If the reactive troop dodged , the active player can shot, face to face roll. —3.2-If the reactive troop do not ARO and Discover roll is succesfull, the shot is normal roll. —3.3-If it fails to discover ,the active troop miss the second skill (shot). Special Skills When a troop is deployed using the Airborne Deployment Special Skill (AD) can it be placed Prone? No, it is not allowed. Can the Berserk Special Skill be used when Charging to a model who replies in ARO with a BS attack? No, it is not allowed. As a CC Special Skill, Berserk Special Skill requires both models be in base contact to be used. When my Lieutenant falls Unconscious or Dead, one of my troops with the skill Chain of Command is the new Lieutenant. Must I indicate to my opponent that my Lieutenant is dead and that the troop with Chain of Command is now the Lieutenant? No. Skills like G Mnemonica or Chain of Command do not need be advertised. The new Lieutenant is automatically appointed without spending Orders or ARO, and the Order Reserve remains unchanged . How do Orders and movement work using a Camouflage Marker" with more than one figure grouped under it ? If you move several figures under one Marker, they do the same action, so it is a Coordinated Order. Therefore A Marker with 3 figures Moving only generates one ARO to each enemy figure in LOF, as if Coordinated. If the 2nd Short Skill is Shoot (revealing the 3 figures), you must apply the restrictions of a Coordinated (same target, maximum B2 ...) It is not necessary to declare that is Coordinated Movement because, as a single marker, it generates a single ARO. But the player must have it in mind, looking to the other restrictions of Coordinated Order. The declaration of Order for a Marker with more than 1 hidden figure, is as usual (move this Marker to this Cover, for example) but you have to subtract the corresponding Orders to the Orders Reserve. What happens to the troops with the Camouflage and TO Camouflage Special Skill in a Retreat! Situation? In a Retreat!!! situation, the troops with CH Camouflage and CH TO Camouflage have that Special Skill reduced to CH Mimetism, in the same way as it happens with Frenzy [WWW]Link to the forum s reply Is a model possessing the Doctor Special Skill allowed to heal alien troops, like Dog-Warriors or Wulvers? Unlike with the MediKit device, the Doctor Special Skill, allows the model to heal alien troops (Dog-Warriors, Wulvers, Antipodes, Pupniks, etc.) Does a model with Explode Special Skill explode automatically once it enters the Unconscious state?. Yes, the figures explodes when it falls Unconscious. A Short Skill is required to be spent when the model possessing the skill wants to Explode while being conscious, in a Normal State. Does Explode as a voluntary short skill require a target? If not, can be used in such a way that affects a Camouflage Marker? What happens if there is an allied troop nearby? Explode as a conscious and voluntary act, is a Short skill that requires WIP roll. It is an offensive action, an attack, therefore requires a valid target. Rules says You can not attack friendly or allied figures (including impersonators undiscovered). Neither Camouflage and Hiding markers . Therefore, you can not activate the Special Skill Explode if the above rules are violated. What happens when I get a Critical roll with Forward Observer? Getting a critical attack with a Forward Observer does not make the guided shots Critical. Guided Special Ammunition has no possibility of Critical because it doesn t require a dice roll. A model with 2 Wounds and Regeneration received a wound. It does Regeneration to regain until 2 ... What happens if the roll fails , it stays as it is with 1 W or becomes Unconscious? It stays as it is, with 1 Wound, and does not go Unconscious. If the roll is successful it will have 2 Wounds. (This is the reason why the Asawira is so tough.) (..)react simultaneously to any attack performed against it out of its LOF with Sixth Sense L2 means the troop can react to a Speculative Shot ? Would it be a Face-to-Face or Normal roll? There are two possibilities The target (always has to be a miniature-target) can Dodge if it has Sixth Sense L2, making a Face to Face roll. If the dodge is successful, the rocket/grenade is lost. If there are more troops with Sixth Sense L2 affected by the Template , they may also Dodge, but their success does not affect the placement of the template. If the grenade suffers from Dispersion and falls on a model with Sixth Sense Level 2 not affected initially by the Template, this troop can not Dodge. How do you Dodge an attack with Guided Missile (the troop was marked) with a model that has Sixth Sense L2? The Forward Observer makes Face to Face roll, against Dodge or shoot.. If successful, a missile launcher can shoot, then it´s an attack performed against it out of its LOF. You can hack the missile the missile Use ECM Dodge thanks to Sixth Sense L2 . Success means that the missile is lost. What is the high of the Seed-embryo marker? The base size, any marker except Camo Marker is just base high. Can the Special Skill Sensor be used several times in a turn, or against several Markers of Camouflage / TO at the same time? Sensor is a Special Skill with an area of effect it doesn t need to target a Marker or miniature. The troop applies Sensor on all its area of effect, so you can Discover several Camouflage or TO Markers with a single roll and can also detect figures with Hidden Deployment. A figure who has the Special Skill Sensor can use it on the same area as many times as you have Orders available during your active turn. Can the Special Skill Sensor be used to Discover Impersonators? No, the Special Skill Sensor only can be used to Discover Camouflage or TO Markers and troops with Hidden Deployment. What if a Dogface suffers a Wound that causes the Transmutation in a place where as Dog-Warrior physically do not fit? (For example, a very narrow hallway, a ventilation duct ...) The transmuted Dog-Warrior in a place too close is Immobilized. If it can be released or not will depend on the terrain.Plaster walls are not the same as the reinforced walls of a base or a bunker. To address the possibility of his release, players must reach an agreement or leave it to the referee if there is a tournament. How does the Sapper Dodge in ARO? A figure in a Foxhole can Dodge in ARO, but can only do the following A)- Just Dodge, not moving, remaining inside the Foxhole with the bonuses it provides. B)- Arise, a Dodge that involves movement, therefore, terminate its action on foot and without the bonuses provided by the Foxhole WEAPONRY Types of ammunition What happens if a model throws a Smoke Grenade from out of Line of Fire and then moves into Line of Fire, but where the Line of Fire would potentially be blocked by the said Smoke Grenade? Any models that gains Line of Fire to the active model with the second Short Skill gains ARO as normal, if the ARO declared can prevent the Smoke Grenade to be thrown, a BS attack for example, it will result in a Face to Face Roll. Is the Cover Bonus applied when the figure is affected by Monofilament Special Ammunition? (For example, when it s affected by he explosion of a Monofilament Mine) No it is not applied. The Monofilament Special Ammunition considers any ARM as 0. This is applied not only to the ARM of he own figure but too to the addition of the Cover Bonus (+3 to ARM) to the ARM value. When the Monofilament Special Ammunition rule says it doesn t provide the Defence Bonus, is it referring it is not provided to the Monofilament carrier or maybe it is not provided to his adversary? Neither of them can apply the Defense Bonus. The Monofilament CC weapons don t allow to apply the Defence Bonus to their carriers neither to their adversaries. What effect does a Cover against Plasma Special Ammunition? The E/M Special Ammunition is radiation, so passes through solid objects, but the Plasma Special Ammunition , being a gas, does not pass through solid objects. When a model that has two Wounds down their wounds at 1, is then vulnerable to the Shock Special Ammunition since then has a single wound? No, only the troops with 1 Wound in their profile are vulnerable to the Shock Special Ammunition. The rule is not applied to those troops who have more than one Wound (W) in their profile. When a troop goes from having a Wound to have two (as might happen with a Cadmus with the Striga Special Skill), does it become invulnerable to the Shock Special Ammunition ? No, the effect is similar to the shock produced by the Viral Special Ammunition , whose rules say that This special effect doesn’t apply to miniatures whose (...)W value has been increased from 1 (Such those with the Striga Special Skill) Combi and MULTI Weaponry Weapon Types Does Grenade Launcher come with all the types of ammunition listed in the rulebook entry? No, only that ammo the Grenade Launcher has is listed in the army list’s trooper entry. If nothing is listed, the Grenade Launcher has normal ammo. In the army lists there are different ways to describe the weapons. For example, is there a difference between wearing - Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher ; Combi Rifle and Light Grenade Launcher ; Combi Rifle, Light Grenade Launcher? The figures with special skills like Booty or Impersonation , with "+" would take both, but if the enemy troop lack the "+" could only be one of the two weapons. Keep in mind that both weapons have their distinct profile, and so apply. If a Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher is hit by E/M, the only thing that could spoil is the Combi Rifle ... then the figure will be on hand with a gun that only works as a grenade launcher Do I have to use a Short Skill, or CC ARO to use the Electric Pulse? Can I use in the active turn, in an attack? Yes, it is mandatory, as with any other CC weapon to spend a Short skill or ARO. The Electric Pulse can be used in attack, not only as a reaction, however, is effective only if the enemy reacts. Example of game would be A Dronbot Remote, engaged in CC with a Morlock. As active troop, it attacks with Electric Pulse. Now, if the Morlock reacts with CC or Dodge, it must apply the Modifier of -6 to its rolls ( CC or PH). If the roll fails because the -6 Modifier, you apply the Electric Pulse. However, if the Morlock doesn t perform an ARO, the Electric Pulse has no effect. An E/Mauler activates when an enemy is activated by an Order or ARO, despite having Total Cover in the middle? Yes, in the case of E/Mauler, by the particular nature of the E/M Special Ammunition , the area of effect and detection are the same. Which Modifiers are applied to an attack with Flash Pulse? Flash Pulse is considered a Ballistic Skill Attack, even though it still uses a WIP roll. With the Flash Pulse the WIP Attribute replaces completely the BS one, like with thrown weapons and PH, all BS Modifiers are applied. Then, the Modifiers to apply would be Distance, Partial Cover, Camouflage and Hiding, those of the Optical Disruption Devices and Low Visibility Zones. Also, the Modifier of +3 to BS given by a 5 members Fireteam is applied, too. Is placing a Mine considered an Attack or a Movement? Does a camouflaged figure reveal when it places a Mine? To place a Mine is an Attack, never a Movement. Therefore, a camouflaged troop reveals automatically when placing a Mine. When you deploy a Mine on the battlefield, either, because a troop plant it with an Order (or ARO) or, at the beginning of the battle, with the Minelayer Special Skill, can be that Mine (Camouflage Marker ) deployed with a Prone Marker ? A Mine is a weapon, not a figure, so there can´t be Prone. Can a model with the Minelayer Special Skill or Crazy Koalas deploy his munitions inside the opponents Deployment Zone No. A Camouflage Marker always has humanoid size, this means the size of a base troop. What happens if a troop with Multispectral Visor L3 look to a deployed Mine which is just behind a parapet? The parapet gives Total Cover to the Mine but only Partial Cover to a normal troop. The troop can try to Discover the Mine for the benefit of other figures of his army, but can not perform a direct attack on it (Because the Mine is in Total Cover). When we choose the type of template using the Plasma Rifle? Can vary from one shot to another in the same Burst? When shooting with a Plasma Rifle you should indicate what type of explosion template placed at the point of impact, Circular or small teardrop . All the shots must use the same type of template. When a template affects to a miniature? When the miniature has its base totally or partially under the Template ,So,when there is any measurable portion of base under the template ,it´s affected. Can I hack a Sepsitorized TAG? Yes, you can hack a Sepsitorized TAG Now that we have the characteristics of the TAG pilots , do Sepsitor attacks would be made against pilot Attributes, instead against the TAG ones? No. When you put a TAG on the table, is played with the TAG profiles. Pilot and TAG are understood as a single entity, and thus puts the profile of TAG, as happens to a heavy infantry with armor. The profiles of the drivers are for use only when the pilot dismount, as Pilot Special Skill rules says. When you use Sepsitor against a TAG, it is now a Combined Army TAG. So, it´s like other CA Tags, impossible to be Possessed? No, if the TAG is human, then you can Possess it. Can you make go out the pilot of a sepsitorized - hacked TAG ? What happens then? If a CA player uses Sepsitor against a TAG (which is the same as to Sepsitor the Pilot ) TAG and Pilot are now CA´S. The CA player can dismount the pilot, if wants. But if the TAG is hacked by its former owner, the CA player can not move the Pilot (the TAG is ,minimum ,Immobilized). Do Combined Army´s sepsitorized Troops add their points for the Retreat! calculation of his "new army"? No, the original value of the Combined Army is what determines when they Retreat! When the Combined Army is in a ["Retreat"!] situation, do the sepsitorized troops under its control become Impetuous too? Do they generate an Impetuous Order (backwards)? Yes, the sepsitorized troop receive an Impetuous Order to go to the Deployment Zone as same as the other Combined Army troops. If the CA army has two (or more) Combat Groups,can a sepsitorized troop only use one combat group Orders ( to which it will be assigned permanently)? The sepsitorized troop only spends Orders of the Combat Group where is the Sepsitor troop. An Immobilized troop can make Sepsitor ... So, hack to immobilize is not Face to Face roll against Sepsitor? Indeed. Since both actions do not affect each other (because although immobilized ,Hacking can not prevent Sepsitor) then everyone makes a Normal roll. Therefore, it may happen that both troops have succeed their rolls. So, it would be a sepsitorized Hacker and a Immobilized troop with Sepsitor. Could I shoot the Marker against a vertical or irregular surface and stay there the Deployable Repeater ? You can not put the Deployable Repeaters ,even with the Marker, on a vertical surface.This is for the gameplay The Repeater Marker position is a visual reference for all players, and therefore it is desirable to operate as such. If we allow to place it on vertical surfaces where it can´t be phisically positioned,it will end up being beside the point where it suposes to be .As one of the items that can remain throughout the game ( and can be a lot ), they could end up confusing. EQUIPMENT AutoMediKit. Is it required a Short or a Long Skill to use the AutoMediKit? To activate the AutoMediKit is required a complete Order, this means it is a Long Skill. The resume-chart of the book s page 136 is mistaken. The correct answer is which appears in the AutoMediKit description (book s page 179). AI Beacon. The Ímetron of the Combined Army has the AI Beacon Special Equipment, the rule of this device says it provides one Order, but, moreover, in the Ímetron troop profile is stated it is Regular and Not Impetuous, but reading the background fluff, it seems to be just a mere inert device. Resuming, the AI Beacon rule provides one extra Order, but the Ímetron is Regular, too. Does this mean each Ímetron provides a total of 2 Orders to the Orders Reserve? The AI Beacon provides one Order (But not an extra Order) and the Ímetron’s one it is a Regular and Not Impetuous Order, this is the reason why it has been pointed in its profile. Biolocator. Is it allowed to perform an attack with Guided Special Ammunition affecting also other allied troops and not only the owner of a Biolocator? The owner, and only the owner of a Biolocator, is not affected by the rule that prevents to attack allied troops. This means the owner, who is an allied troop, can be targeted by Guided Special Ammunition, but only him. If there would be any other allied troop or Marker, in the area of effect of the Guided Special Ammunition, then, the shot of the Guided Ammo would not be allowed. Can a Biolocator be activated if there is a Camouflage and Hiding Marker nearby? If there is Camouflage and Hiding Marker near of a Biolocator, and there is not any enemy model there, then the Biolocator can not be activated. The action of activate the Biolocator is a menace to the Camouflage and Hiding Marker (We could say it is like to place a Mine) and the only way (Except with Multispectral Visor L3") to threat/ attack a not previously discovered Marker is performing an Intuitive Attack. And Biolocator doesn’t allow to perform Intuitive Attacks, so it is not a legal action. The Kuang Shi Control Device s rule points that, if the army is on Retreat, the Kuang Shi explode, with no spending Orders necessary. What happens if the player, when his turn starts, noted that his army is on Retreat? Does the Kuang Shi explode without give their Order to the Orders Reserve? Or do they provide their Orders, and then explode? The Kuang Shi provide their Order to the Order Reserve, and then, explode. Following the game sequence, the account of troops ad Orders comes first. The Kuang Shi provide, each one, their Order to the Order Reserve. Then the effects of the Retreat!!! are applied and all the Kuang Shi explode, and, as the rule says, with no spending Orders necessary. Does holoprojector level 2 (a piece of equipment ,not a skill) including the level 1? Holoprojector is a piece of equipment by levels (Level 1 and Level 2) Level 2 includes the previous one, but you can´t combine both effects and thus becomes explicit in the rule. Holoprojector L1 rule says, "The Holoprojector user and the trooper he is disguised as must be the same size (A human cannot become a Remote or a T.A.G. for example".. . How many size scales are there? 1 - People, REM and T.A.G? .2 -small base,big ones? ...3 - When you weight?....other? The question of size refers precisely to the volume it occupies in space. Like a human sized figure can not imitate a normal Remote (which is lower and wider) a Remote can not mimic a Remote Server (Which is obviously smaller than the conventional Remote). Nor a mounted Aragoto (Which is larger and quite different dimensions) or a Aragoto without his bike (That has a human scale) . While a human can imitate a Aragoto without bike but not with it, a human can imitate a Remote if the model has human dimensions (Patroclus / Dakini). If model possessing an activated Holoprojector L1 is member of a Fireteam and his Team Leader declares a Shoot Short Skill, is the Holoprojector figure revealed even this has not make any roll and he is only providing the Bonuses to the Team Leader? Effectively, the Holoprojector L1 is automatically revealed every time the Fireteam declares (and executes) any Skill which not be, as the rule says Cautious Movement and all Movement Skills that don t require to roll dice (Except to Alert). It doesn t matter the members of the Fireteam don t roll dice when a, for example, Shoot Short Skill is declared a different Skill from above mentioned has been declared so the Holoprojectors L1 are revealed. Please realize that, even not rolling dice, the Team members are supporting actively his Team Leader, so this reveal them. [WWW]Link to this reply in the forum Have the Aragoto’s Motorcycles a Smoke Light Grenade Launcher? In the army lists, the Kum bikes note they have the Smoke Light Grenade Launcher, but the Aragoto’s ones don’t. No, the Motorcycle rule points the military motorbikes usually have a Smoke Light Grenade Launcher, but it doesn’t say they always have such weapon. The weaponry and equipment of a troop is always noted in the army lists. This is the case of the Aragoto’s bikes, which have not the Smoke Light Grenade Launcher. The Nanoscreen doesn’t move if the model shoots in ARO; but if the troop Discovers or Dodges (Short Skill of the Order) then it moves to provide cover to him. Then, what happens if a troop with Nanoscreen is shot by several enemies in Coordinated Order and he declares to Dodge? Does the Nanoscreen move to provide cover from one single enemy, or does it move to cover from all of them? When a Movement skill or a Dodge is declared in ARO, the Nanoscreen acts in the same way it does during the active turn. It places wherever it would be necessary to provide cover from all shots. If the attack is performed in a Coordinated Order, it provides cover from all enemies. 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必要条件 Base Level 60 アイテム Research Chart 10個, Handcuffs 10個, Ymir's Heart Piece 1個 アイテム (消費無し) Grandpa Beard 1個, Geek Glasses 1個 前提クエスト Biolabs Entrance Quest, Einbroch Murder Quest 報酬 Base Exp 180,000 アイテム Old Purple Box 1個 日本版タイトル : 大統領 1部 1. On a visit to Lighthalzen, you stumble across an Ordinary Man, Ghalstein (lighthalzen 179 170) and greet him. 2. Walk close to the wall surrounding the upper left area, suddenly you overhear a conversation. You can't quite hear what they're talking about, but you hear a familiar sound... it's Ghalstein. 3. Next go talk to Ghalstein again and ask about what you just overheard, and confirm it was his voice. After trying to get it out of him, he finally admits that it was him on and he asks you to give him time to consider telling the truth. 4. He then tells you he belongs to a secret group that's fighting an underground war with someone and asks you to help them. Agree to help him. He proposes a restriction on you by making you swallow a red pill which will undoubtedly make sure you stay truthful to the cause. He assure that he'll give the antidote once you complete his mission. 5. Ghalstein wants you to investigate on Rekenber Headquarters because lately strange creatures have been seen under the basement. He asks for you to collect all related biological exhibits, plus the most important thing and he assure you that you'll know that important thing when I see it (Ymir's Heart Piece). He also tells you that lately people are missing in the slum area and it probably has to do with the Rekenber Corporation as well. 6. Those that did the Biolabs Entrance Quest can go to Level 2 and Level 3 of the Biolabs Dungeon through the Underwater Tunnel. Collect 10 Research Chart s, 10 Handcuffs and a Ymir's Heart Piece (Top right corner of Level 2) 7. After gathering the items needed, talk to Ghalstein. He asks you to meet Gushaar for the next mission somewhere around Juno×. Obtain Membership Card 8. Looking somewhere around Juno, you found a Dismayed Man, Gushaar (yuno_fild04 165 245). You tell him you've been sent by Ghalstein and he asks you to chose red pill and blue pill. Since Ghalstein previously gave you red pill, choose the red pill. Then he asks if you have something to show him. Say yes, and show him the Membership Card. 9. After that he tells you his country, Schwarzwald is controled by the evil Rekenber Corporation. You learn that they have organized a resistance called Wing Of Secret with the help of the President Karl Weierstrass to free the Schwarzwald Republic from the control of Rekenber. He asks you to meet the President at an appointed time. * Between 8 PM to 11 PM or 11 AM to 2 PM talk to the President's secretary. For iRO, the times listed are in Pacific Time. 10. At the President of the Schwarzwald Republic's Office (building in north Juno 157, 319), meet Secretary Hes O'Neil (yuno_pre 69 20) O'Neil tells you the President is waiting. 11. Talk to the Guard (yuno_pre 95 71) outside the President's office you find out he still meeting with another guest. You may have to talk to the guard many times to continue 12. Finally, a Fine Gentleman comes out of the room; it's Keshnaar. He's the President's guest the Guard talked about! 13. After Keshnaar leaves, ask the Guard about him and you learn that Keshnaar works for Rekenber and is responsible for consulting with the government. You are let into the office. 14. President Karl (yuno_pre 69 79) is a busy man. So he gives you a few questions to ask him. After he briefs you about it, ask about your mission. 15. Your first mission from the President is to go to the Aldebran Kafra Headquarters and meet someone called Venice. Before you leave he wants you to pass a file to his Secretary Hes O'Neil. Obtain File Folder 16. As you walk out of the room, you hear someone talking by the window, before the sound fades away. 17. Give the File to Hes O'Neil. 18. Find the Kafra× Employee, Benith (aldeba_in 155 240) and she explains about voting rights for Kafra Service Cool Event Corp. 19. After she's done, ask "are you Benith..?" and the let her see the Membership Card. She tells you she's a member of Wind of Secret as well. She explains one of the agent is stuck is hiding at Grim Reaper's Valley and needs to be rescued. His name is Jargeah. 20. After a long search, I spot A Wounded Man, Jargeah (lhz_fild02 228 214). He asks who you are, so type in Kafra Corporation. He gives you a file and asks you to pass it to Benith and leave him here. Obtain Sealed File Folder 21. Pass the file to Benith, then she asks about Jargeah. Afterwards, she passes back the file and asks you to hand it over to the President. 22. From the file, the President learns that one of the enterprise researchers caried the secret and is hiding in a secret place. His name is Shinokas, and is in Einbroch. My next mission will be find that person. (You may need to wait a few minutes in the room to talk to the President again and be asked about Shinokas) To continue, you must have completed the Einbroch Murder Quest. 23. When you tell the President about Shinokas, the guard interrupts your conversation and says Hes O'Neil has an urgent matter to see him about. O'Neil passes a pack of documents to President. 24. After President examines the documents, (You may have to click many times), he tells you a secret file about Shinokas is hiding in the store room of Rekenber Headquarters. You are ordered to go somewhere around Lighthalzen to wait for the Kafra Service to contact you. 25. North of Lighthalzen, A Mystery Woman, Esuna appears (lhz_fild01 66 219). She gives you a short briefing on how to infiltrate the corporation and steal the information. Esuna informs you to make contact with a secret agent, Lestin inside the headquarters and obtain a pass from him to disarm the security system. You should have on a Grandpa Beard and Geek Glasses to gain access to the labs 26. Go back to Lighthalzen, and enter the Rekenber Headquarters. Go past the Guard (lhz_in01 35 226). 27. Go to the upper room in the research lab. He is Researcher, Lestin (lhz_in01 285 169). He tells you the location for the file is heavily guarded and the entry pass from him can last for 3 minutes. Obtain Archive Permit 28. To get to the Document Room, return back outside from where you had to wear the Geek Glasses and Grandpa Beard to enter. Walk past the two female guides and there should be a portal north of them. In the new room, continue walking to the right, past another portal, until you see two guards guarding a room (around lhz_in01 177,29). When you arrive at the corner of the Document Room, wait patiently until both guards leave their post by walking near the (183,29) cell. When prompted, enter the pin number 738495 to enter the room. Then start your infiltrating, slide in the card and input the number on the card and enter the door. (3 minutes before you are spotted) 29. Type in Shinokas at the File Search Engine and find the relevant information is kept in area 1-5. NOTE The File Search Engine is Case Sensitive, so type 'shinokas' at the Input Box. This was tested on iRO. 30. Find the document at area 1-5, it's about Heart of Ymir again. It seems like the information you're looking for. Obtain Shinokas Case File 31. Return the Archive Permit to Lestin and head back to Esuna. 32. Bring the document to Esuna. She adds some files and reorganizes them, then tell you to hand it over to the President. 33. When President finds out about the death of Shinokas, he says it's not important but the most important thing is what Rekenber is going to do with Ymir's Heart Fragments. He then asks you to run back to Esuna because she might have new information. 34. Meet Esuna again. She's very depressed because of the recent losses in her group and they plan to withdraw from Wind Of Secret. She later gives you the file. Obtain Sealed File Folder 35. Tell the President of Esuna her member's plans of withdrawing after passing him the document. He's puzzled and ask you to find out the reason from Esuna. 36. Esuna tells you that she believes there is a spy in the movement and President's trusted aide, Kurelle is the most suspicious. Later they infiltrated his residence and find the evidence that relates him to Rekenber. Her headquarters orders them to hold any actions that correlated with the President. 37. Rush back to President and tell him everything you heard from Esuna. He's stunned and after all, he's been played by the Corportation and betrayed by his trusted aide. He orders his secretary to invite Kurelle into the room. The President starts to question Kurelle. At first he act as if he doesn't know what the President is talking about, but he confesses and tell him everything about his ambitious and the Corporation. 38. Go back to Lighthalzen and tell everything to Ghalstein. It's a blow for Ghalstein after he hears it. He later gives you the antidode and apologizes for involving you in such a mess. Obtain 1 Old Purple Box and 180,000 Base EXP * This quest is not required on iRO in order to vote in the Kafra/Cool Event Corp. Elections. Categories Articles Needing Interwiki Links | Quest Window Quests | Base Experience Reward | Lighthalzen Quests
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1 lt;/b gt; ◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 04/11/17 17 46 40 ID gSansf1H オランダ Koninklijke Philips Electronics N.V. のStreamium シリーズについてのスレ。`Streamium'http //www.streamium.com2 lt;/b gt; ◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 04/11/17 17 48 01 ID gSansf1H 無線LAN対応、インターネットラジオ対応コンポ。`Philips Streamium MC-i250'http //www.streamium.com/products/mc-i250/マニュアルhttp //www.p4c.philips.com/files/m/mc-i250_37/mc-i250_37_dfu_aen.pdf当面は北米向けモデルの MC-i250/37 について、日本に調達、利用することについて考えてみまつ。(BiBio スレに寄生していたが、活発になったので分離)3 lt;/b gt; ◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 04/11/17 17 48 40 ID gSansf1H BiBio 同様 Etherでよければ(つまり無線 LAN なし)ディスコンですが MC-i200 というのもあります。多少安いです。Philips のアウトレットで売っています。`MC-i200/250 Support'http //www.streamium.com/mc-i200250/`Philips Outlet Store'http //www.outlet.philips.com/4 lt;/b gt; ◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 04/11/17 17 49 16 ID gSansf1H なお、サイトには書いてありませんが、`Index of /files/m'http //www.p4c.philips.com/files/m/ここからマニュアルを見ると品番に枝番があり(おそらく)北米向け、欧州向けの違いがあります。枝番が /37 → 北米向け枝番が /22 → 欧州向け電圧の関係で日本で使えるのは北米向けモデルです。5 lt;/b gt; ◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 04/11/17 17 50 03 ID gSansf1H 問題点としては、・日本向けモデルが存在しない、日本で売っていない・FMラジオの周波数レンジが海外の87.5~108MHzであり日本とずれていて、日本では聞けない局がある・北米モデルはAMラジオの周波数グリッドが10kHzステップで日本のラジオ局に正確にチューンできない・Philipsの日本法人に問い合わせたところ、取り寄せは無理・米国内で扱っている通販サイトで買う必要がある・米国のサイトはそのほとんどが日本へ直接配送してくれないので、個人輸入代行サービス等を利用する必要があるというところです。6 lt;/b gt; ◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 04/11/17 17 53 31 ID gSansf1H Philips streamium MC-i250 のインターネットラジオについて、本体にプリセットできるのか、任意のサイトを追加できるのか、Philips サーバとの関係はどうか、などなど調べてみますた。●マニュアルhttp //www.p4c.philips.com/files/m/mc-i250_37/mc-i250_37_dfu_aen.pdfまず「プリセット」で引いてみた。`preset' という単語が使われているのは Radio と Timer の記述だけ。30頁(PDFのページでなはく、印字されてるノンブルね。以下同。)Storing favorite radio stationsYou can store up to 40 favorite radio stations inthe memory. Favorites is always on in Tuner mode.→ ここで出た `memory' という単語は Radio 関係でしか出現せず。インターネットラジオ局は本体に記録されないみたい。7 lt;/b gt; ◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 04/11/17 17 54 17 ID gSansf1H 一方、InternetAudio の説明では23頁にNotes - Only Stations can be marked as a favorite.とある。本体への記憶は `favorite' という呼び方をしているみたい。「favorite」で引いてみると随所に出て来る。28頁(CD/MP3-CD)Marking favorite tracks(前略)You can manage your CD/MP3-CD favorites inMy.Philips.com (refer to “My.Philips.com” formore information).→ CD や MP3CD でも ユーザID ごとに `favorite' が使えるみたい。Philips のサーバが記憶していてその上で管理できるみたい。24頁(Internet Audio)Select UserThe user menu displays the available account(s)for easy selection. Select a user account toretrieve user specific favorites within a source/service.→ ユーザアカウントを選択すると、ユーザ毎の `favorite' を *取りにゆく(retrieve)* みたい。8 lt;/b gt; ◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 04/11/17 17 55 37 ID gSansf1H ●Philips のサーバについて25頁About “My.Philips.com”(前略)Once you have registered with “My.Philips.com”, youwill be able to - create and personalize your music selections.- update on latest music releases or favoriteartists.(後略)25頁(Internet Audio)Reset SettingsSelecting this feature will revert the system tothe default setting.WARNING!Restore the default settings erases allthe information stored in the set options.You will remain registered at“My.Philips.com”.→本体の設定をデフォルトに戻してもMy.Philips.com の登録は残っているみたい。9 lt;/b gt; ◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 04/11/17 17 56 56 ID gSansf1H ●利用できる音楽サービスサイトについて`Internet Music Services'http //www.streamium.com/mc-i200250/internetmusic/これによると利用できる音楽サービスサイトはAndante (要クレジットカード)、LAUNCHcast、Live365、MusicMatch (45日無料体験)、PlayhouseRadio.com、Radio Free Virgin、My Streams (ユーザが任意のラジオ局を登録できる)。`My Streams'http //www.streamium.com/mc-i200250/internetmusic/support_mystreams_250.cfmYou can enter any MP3 or mp3PRO URL into your My.Philips account,and then they will be displayed on your Streamium for you to play.(Currently, RealAudio and Windows Media types are not supported.)→MP3であれば任意の局を登録できるみたい。RealAudio や Windows Media はダメみたい。10 lt;/b gt; ◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 04/11/17 17 58 53 ID gSansf1H Philips streamium MC-i250 で分かったこと●インータネットラジオ局はユーザが任意に登録できるが本体やリモコン(英字打てるんだけど)からできないみたい。→ Web から Philips のサーバに登録するしかないみたい。●RealAudio や Windows Media はダメみたい。●インターネットラジオの登録は Philips のサーバで行われていて本体には記録されていないみたい。→ 選曲や登録が Philips のサーバに依存しているPhilips のサーバが落ちた/サービス停止した とき、何も聞けなくなる(?)AM/FM/CD が聞けるだけになる(?)将来、サーバのサービス停止することがあるなら本体でURL指定 かつ 本体記憶にファームアップして gt; Philips●CD を聞いているときに CDタイトル、アーチスト名とトラック名が出るらしいのは便利そう●INFO! ボタンを押せばそのとき流れている曲の情報がメールで届くらしいのは便利そう(チューナと AUX は適応外)11 lt;/b gt; ◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 04/11/17 17 59 55 ID gSansf1H Philips MC-i250/37 をFM周波数帯やAM周波数ステップが合わないのを承知で日本に輸送し利用する際に心配なのが故障時の対応です。MC-i250/37 のマニュアルを参照しますとhttp //www.p4c.philips.com/files/m/mc-i250_37/mc-i250_37_dfu_aen.pdf39ページ(印字頁、pdf上では42ページ) `LIMITED WARRANTY' の`WHERE IS SERVICE AVAILABLE?' の個所に`Warranty service is available in all countries where theproduct is officially distributed by Philips'.とあります。(要は、保証はフィリップスが販売している国で有効)が、つづけて`In countries where Philips does not distribute the product,the local Philips service organization will attempt to provide service(although there may be a delay if the appropriate spareparts and technical manual(s) are not readily available)'.と明記されています。(フィリップスが販売していない国では、現地フィリップスのサービス機関がサービスを提供するよう試みる、以下略)日本でもなんとか保証サービスが受けれると考えてよさそうですね。12 3は学割野朗 lt;/b gt;◆BJ3GET/Ezc lt;b gt; 04/11/18 13 32 44 ID Fhkmb17W 板違い、削除以来だしとけバカ13 名無しさん@3周年 04/11/20 07 10 55 ID ZYDQO+Gh フィリップスAV製品のアフターサービスって日本マランツがやってるはずだけどたしか日本で売られてるものしかサポートしなかったのでは...14 名無しさん@3周年 04/12/01 17 13 32 ID ygY8ALRb MC-i250、jr.com が最安値みたいなんだけどずっと Temporarily Out of Stock なんだよね。いつ入荷されるんだろうか...15 名無しさん@3周年 04/12/03 21 43 52 ID rXXVX5fF gt;14bestbuy.comでMC-I 200セール中。Wi-Fiいらんならこっちカット毛16 名無しさん@3周年 04/12/04 09 01 27 ID DxrZ3FyJ gt; gt;14jr.com のMC-i250、取扱やめたみたいよ。メール来た。Dear Valued Customer,Recently, you submitted a stock alert・requesting to be notified when we have the item(s) below back in stock.We are sorry to inform you that due to circumstances beyond our control, we are unable provide you with this information.At the current time, we are unable to obtain sufficient information from the manufacturer as to when or if we will be receiving another shipment.17 名無しさん@3周年 04/12/08 21 22 42 ID A+rt8s/J いやそこでTemporarily Out of Stockだけど発注してたら店側からキャンセルされたよ。We're very sorry to inform you that that the following item(s) you ordered,Order #SKUProduct Name----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------43024180PHI MCI250PHILIPS Streamium MC-i250 Broadband Internet Hi-Fi Systemhave been cancelled.If this cancellation was due to the product being unavailable, we apologize. Please be aware that every effort possible was made to obtain these items for you.18 名無しさん@3周年 04/12/09 22 05 33 ID cehLlY4a gt; gt;15ちゅうかセール安いからMC-i200とMC-i250の差額で無線LANイーサネットコンバータ買えるやん。MC-i250はIEEE802.11bしか対応してないっしょ。Etherのみ対応のMC-i200+コンバータの方が802.11gとか対応できるから将来的にはよいのでは?19 名無しさん@3周年 04/12/11 07 56 12 ID VjKp62vo gt; gt;16RefurbishedでよいならMC-I250が$247.00のところがある。http //www.electronicsnation.com/en/products/flypage/prod_id/MC-I250サイトのセキュリティ証明書の有効期限が切れてるのでブラウザがアラート出すのが気になる...20 lt;/b gt; ◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 04/12/15 19 52 25 ID ZHvhOJLZ gt; gt;13 が気になったのでPhilipsに gt; gt;11 の件を聞いてみたら、「日本ではサービスを受けれないのでアメリカに送れ」とな。それも「問い合わせフォームから尋ねる、一週間音沙汰無し」を3回繰り返してようやく返事が来た。一ヵ月近くかかったぞ。返事はシンガポールからの国際電話。英語で直接来たからびびったわ。その会話中にマランツの件も聞いてみたが「streamium は新しい製品なのでマランツでは無理」らしい。じゃ、何か?マニュアルにあるWARRANTY記載の`In countries where Philips does not distribute the product,the local Philips service organization will attempt to provide service(以下略)'はウソというワケだな?とまでは英語がヘタレで問い詰められなかった... orz21 名無しさん@3周年 04/12/20 22 44 23 ID wF9dRm8c BestBuy.com の MC-I 200、躊躇してる間に $10 値上げされてしもた... orz22 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 04/12/28 07 46 33 ID xCgkG1vh MC-i200、アメリカから輸入しますた。クリスマスに着いたーよ。冬休み遊んでレポートしまつ。第一印象 赤い!日本でこんな色が許されるだろうか。23 名無しさん@3周年 05/01/08 00 19 50 ID 9uhN2unK でどうよ24 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/01/10 10 37 48 ID dGKttE5Z MC-i200、めっちゃ癖あります。私はBiBioユーザなんで、どうしてもそれと比べてしまいます。【インターネットラジオ】・ 直接選択できるのは LAUNCHcast@Yahoo、Live365、Radio Free Virgin。いずれも私は PC で聞いたことがないので、本機通してどうなったかは不明。→暇ができたら試してみよう× SHOUTcast は選択肢にないから、SHOUTcast に慣れた私にはつらい。たとえば SmoothJazz.com 聞きたければ My.Philips.com からMy Streams に新規登録しないといけない。×× My Streams に登録された局では、アーチスト名や曲名が出ない。→これが一番つらい。BiBio なら マイメニューに書いた局も楽勝なんだが...・ RealAudio や Windows Media はダメです。縁がないので不便を感じません。ゴメン25 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/01/10 11 00 58 ID dGKttE5Z 【CDプレーヤ】○ CD を入れると Gracenote CDDB に問い合わせにゆくのでアルバム名、曲名、アーチスト名が出て便利。→クラシック聞いていると、タイトル長いから画面幅に収まらずみんな `Symphony No.1, …' で見分けつかなかったり;)× Gracenote CDDB は邦楽がほぼ全滅。`No Gracenote CDDB info found for CD' と出る。私は邦楽あまり聞かないので不便を感じないけど。ゴメン余談PIZZICATO FIVE なら有名じゃろかと数枚試してみたら全滅。唯一アメリカデビューアルバム `PIZZICATO FIVE MADE in USA' は認識。手元の CD 色々試したらまぁそれなりに例外もあります。Sarah Brightman の `Classics' が認識されなかったり。邦楽で十年以上前の ICE `Wake Up Everybody' が認識されたり。どちらも東芝EMIなんですが。このへんは Philips というより Gracenote の話なんですが。ゴメン26 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/01/10 11 45 19 ID dGKttE5Z 【MP3CD】・ CD 入れてから 収録曲を調べるのに少し待たされます。当たり前ですが、曲名表示などは漢字表示できません。半角の変な記号になります。私は FreeRIP でリッピングしてまして、ファイル名や ID3 タグはfreedb.org が出すローマ字表記を使っていて満足してるので不便を感じません。ゴメン× ID3 タグを表示させるには、オプションから指示しないといけません。`Read ID3 tags? Note may take several minutes' と聞かれます。CD 内全部の ID3 タグを読みにいくようです。ID3 タグ表示にするとディレクトリ構造での選択ができなくなります。CD 一枚分まるごとの曲を、ID3 タグをもとにしたアーチスト名やアルバム名、曲名ソートされた中から選択しないといけません。27 名無しさん@3周年 05/01/11 23 51 47 ID v+wj9dbl 素朴な疑問なんスけど、日本にはインターネットCDDBから情報とって表示するコンポってないんですか?つーか、streamiumでないといけないわけ?28 27 05/01/12 20 36 21 ID y6OrX/DM gt;27 自己フォロー。超超くだらねぇ質問に物凄いスピードで答えるスレ★13 で聞いたhttp //hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/av/1104586313/668-669n・エニーミュージック対応機で登録、課金すればいけそう・無料でCDDBに接続、というのは国産ではなさげエニーミュージックというのを調べてみたら毎月金がかかる。(月315円だからヤフオク並だが)じゃCDDB大元のGracenoteはどうかと調べてみたら、金には言及してない。いらないみたい。対応機リストを見付けた。http //www.gracenote.com/gn_japan/partners/home.html十数社あるが、なんとかシステムとか仰々しいのばっかりでミニコンポとなるとPhilips Streamiumくらいでした。しっかりMC-i250の写真載ってるし。http //www.gracenote.com/gn_japan/partners/home_partner.html/comp=philips_homeとりあえず洋楽を無料で行きたい人はstreamiumなわけね。おさわがせしますた。29 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/01/18 22 54 28 ID cGxSbN96 ぼちぼちと書かせていただきます。【PCリンク】・Musicmatch Jukebox をインストールすれば、PC 上の mp3 ファイルを再生できるようになります。→これすごい便利ですね。BiBioスレが盛り上がるのも分かるような気が。× 私が使っているのは Windows2000 なんですが、PCが起動しているだけではダメで(本機から認識されない)、ログオンしておく必要があります。× 日本語ファイル名のmp3ファイルは、認識はされますが再生されません。Musicmatch Jukebox 側の問題みたい。・ 基本的に ID3 タグをもとにした管理をしてるみたいです。まーいろいろびっくりすることがあっておもしろいです。そのうちユーザレビュー(?)みたいなものを写真とともにWeb上に上げようかなとか考えてます。30 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/01/18 22 56 11 ID cGxSbN96 gt; gt;22 で赤いと書きましたが、MC-i200が赤で、MC-i250が黒と、モデルで色が違うようです。http //www.p4c.philips.com/files/m/mc-i200_37/mc-i200_37__ff_.jpghttp //www.p4c.philips.com/files/m/mc-i250_37/mc-i250_37__ff_.jpg私赤いのがあるなぞ知らずに黒と思ったままMC-i200を発注しまして届いて箱を開けて驚いた次第でつ。ダース・モールを初めて見たよな驚き。http //www.starwars.com/databank/character/darthmaul/31 名無しさん@3周年 05/01/21 21 45 17 ID MrnxnUwY gt; gt;24 gt;×× My Streams に登録された局では、アーチスト名や曲名が出ない。 gt; →これが一番つらい。BiBio なら マイメニューに書いた局も楽勝なんだが...ここにも話題が出てるな。http //www.streamiumcafe.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0 Number=2797 an=0 page=0#2797近いうちにファームウェアがアップデートされるそうだから改善を期待しよう。http //www.streamiumcafe.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0 Number=3005 an=0 page=0#300532 名無しさん@3周年 05/01/26 21 29 27 ID DJ3zXsHB gt; gt;31 ファームアップはビデオ周りらしいからMC-i200, MC-i250 は関係ないと思うぞhttp //www.streamiumcafe.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0 Board=news Number=3298 Searchpage=1 Main=3005 Words=video-capable topic= Search=true#Post329833 名無しさん@3周年 05/01/27 23 35 46 ID vQjQs7FN プリセット(?)されてるLive365聞いててアーチスト名と曲名が出ないのも痛いなぁ34 名無しさん@3周年 05/01/29 09 44 05 ID T/GgLqhU 亀浜AudioTronスレ微妙に伸びてるよ。もうすこしで追いつくまでガンガレ!35 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/02/02 21 17 44 ID fIyRcvzS gt; gt;31 gt; gt;33Radio365でも情報が出る局と出ない局があるようです。LAUNCHcast@Yahooは情報出ます。FWD/REW で並びの曲に移ったりできます。Radio Free Virginも情報出ます。ナゾの多い機械ですね。そこが魅力でもあるんですが。36 名無しさん@3周年 05/02/02 21 53 13 ID q8aL0mho gt; gt;35別にナゾなんかないと思うけどなぁ。チャンネルによって曲情報流してないってだけでしょ。37 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/02/03 21 51 50 ID GiJ/yiJ8 いやそれがここに出てるように、http //www.streamiumcafe.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0 Number=3597 an=0 page=0#3597Live365 provides their track information using a non-standard protocol.This means if you use any MP3 stream player (e.g. winamp) with Live365 you will not see track information.とか書かれてるもんで。それを Streamium が解釈できて(?)るのが不思議というかなんというか。38 名無しさん@3周年 05/02/04 21 06 30 ID nB3aJVXH サービスマニュアル見つけたぞ、ほい。知られざる事実が分かって面白いよ。Philips Micro System Models MC-i200 Service Manualhttp //fileshare.eshop.bg/downloadsm/12659/Philips_MC-i200.htmlPhilips Micro System Model MC-I250 Service Manualhttp //fileshare.eshop.bg/downloadsm/12629/Philips_MC-I250.html39 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/02/05 08 21 35 ID UDDi4f3K Service Manual 見てたらMC-i200/21M なんて枝番あるんでつね...それがどうも Oversea モデルみたい。FMはあいかわらずJapanwideじゃないけど。AM9kHz/10kHz切替可能とかが少しうらやまスィhttp //www.p4c.philips.com/files/m/mc-i200_21m/mc-i200_21m_dfu_eng.pdf40 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/02/06 23 22 10 ID DPjyjyJa PC-Link機能のPCサーバソフトはMusicmatch Jukebox と Philips Media Manager があります。Streamium Cafe でもいろいろ書かれてますが後者は重いとかバグ多いだとか... どうも前者のほうがよさそうです。試してみましたがまぁ前者はよさげです。 gt; gt;29 にも書きましたが。後者はアルバム中の曲順に再生できないみたいです。ただ日本語パス再生OKです。詳細は追って。41 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/02/08 21 29 31 ID LWevlsDa gt; gt;38 のサービスマニュアルで Japan という語を検索したらMC-i200, MC-i250 とも 7A-2頁の `TUNER BOARD ECO6' 回路図 12-A 付近に`VERSION PROGRAMMING COMPONENTS'という表がありバージョンによるパーツの違いがまとめられているが`/06 FM-Japan/AM' なる記述がある。製造/販売されていたかはとにかく、日本向けモデルの設計もされていたようだ。42 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/02/08 21 30 42 ID LWevlsDa この表に、US向けモデルである /37 の記述はないが一番近そうな `/17 FM/AM' のパーツと比較すると、US向けモデルの ECO6 TUNER BOARD からパーツナンバー 6120 のダイオードを取れば、(ハンダ面の面実装チップダイオード。パターンカットが楽かなぁ)ハード的には幻の日本向けモデルに改造できそうなヨカーンま、FM が Japanwide になるだけやけどね。(とはいえ RadioSHARK ユーザが羨ましがりそうだな)しかしファームウェア的にメインボードがどういう扱いをするか分からん。43 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/02/08 21 32 01 ID LWevlsDa ちなみに MC-i200では 2-3頁、MC-i250 では 2-4頁にある`Service Positions Repair Hints' によると1) During repair it is possible to disconnect the ECO6 TunerBoard completely unless the fault is suspected to be inthat area. This will not affect the performance of the restof the set.とあるので、チューナ内でのバージョン設定がチューナ外に影響を与える可能性は少ないと思ワレ44 34 05/02/09 06 50 48 ID U8mDfeJl さりげに亀浜AudioTronスレに追いついたYO!45 名無しさん@3周年 05/02/10 23 17 47 ID lg8jfDpE gt; gt;42 gt;(とはいえ RadioSHARK ユーザが羨ましがりそうだな)RadioSHARKと状況は変わらんぞ。for Japanese version onlyなパーツよく見れ。ラジオICをTEA5757HからTEA5759Hに変えなあかんやろ。つまり、フカヒレと同じじゃ。ここ嫁。http //hobby5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dgoods/1097945755/190-193n46 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/02/11 06 54 13 ID /1BdcOn5 ガー(AA略ーン47 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/02/11 06 55 17 ID /1BdcOn5 sage忘れスマソ48 名無しさん@3周年 05/02/15 20 01 40 ID JLChil7O gt; gt;40Philips Media Manager最近アップデートされてVer.3.2.0.0138だとアルバム中曲順再生おkのはず49 名無しさん@3周年 05/02/16 14 17 11 ID 5+JLflqj y-katowさんなにげにStreamium Cafeでよくカキコされてますな。50 名無しさん@3周年 05/02/18 10 48 11 ID xqSXrx5f これは、y-katow さんですか?http //academy3.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1077468638/187ny-katow さん以外に、持ってる人がいるのか気になったので51 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/02/18 22 56 32 ID 75c6IbR/ あ、はい。そうです。変わったもの持ってると目立ってしまうから悪いことできまへんな(wほかお持ちの方おいでなんでしょうか?52 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/02/26 23 44 32 ID rAQSxLN6 あの、すいません。自作自演ですがレビュー書いています。途中ですが置いてみました。http //www.eonet.ne.jp/~y-katow/53 名無しさん@3周年 05/02/28 22 29 50 ID Tdj0vk+s LaunchcastってMP3で流してるの?54 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/03/02 20 52 21 ID +Zi/3gbT ん、違うの?ホントだ。PC 上で LAUNCHcast 聞きながらURL snooper しても asx や wma しか出ない。Radio Free Virgin も asx や asf だ...streamium の仕様は mp3 と mp3pro のみなんだがなんで streamium で上の2局が聞けるんだろ。これらの局と Philips が提携してstreamium には mp3 を送ってるんだろうか。55 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/05 09 53 06 ID p67dM/uT そしたら送信元のアドレスがわかればwGateでもきけるなぁ56 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/05 10 43 48 ID oIEvywSm LAN に繋いでパソコンから sniff すればいいだけじゃないの?57 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/03/05 11 55 28 ID 7eslt+Va や、まぁそうなんスけど、今 Streamium Cafe で質問してるところなんで。http //www.streamiumcafe.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0 Number=4650 an=0 page=0#4650まぁそのうち気が向いたらやってみますかね。Philips のサーバが MP3 に再エンコードしてるとしてもstreamium からの要求には 識別可能なの個体 ID か何か送ってるヨカーン。だとすると私の機械の ID が入ってるから他の人には教えられないかも。もしそうでなかったらLAUNCHcast や RadioFreeVirgin のフリーにアクセスできるMP3 ストリーム URL がバレるというお祭り騒ぎになるわけで万々歳なんですが。58 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/05 20 24 09 ID k4T1lCAQ 解析情報?http //www.siteswap.org/streamium/protocol.html59 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/03/06 16 45 57 ID VQsU6/Fq ㌧クスです。Streamium Cafe に投げたら、ソッコーで切り返されますた。http //www.siteswap.org/streamium/pclink.pl.txt60 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/03/06 19 12 40 ID VQsU6/Fq Ethernetパケットアナライザーで見ながらStreamium で LAUNCHcast@yahoo を聞いてみたら、どうも yahoo も mp3ストリーム用サーバ持っているみたい。例えば、これ開いてみて。今しか聞けないかもしれないけど。http //mp3content03.bcst.yahoo.com/proot4/Pubshare14/launchmp3/5/6358394.mp3?StreamID=635839461 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/06 19 59 40 ID 7ctEKLel おおっ、聴ける!!62 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/06 21 34 42 ID Qy44hrmC wGateでも聴ける(一曲分だけど)。plsの一曲分なのかな。63 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/03/06 23 05 58 ID VQsU6/Fq パスと mp3 ファイル名と StreamID がどう決まってるか分かるといいんだけど、この HTTP GET Request 以前にあるはず。見返してみると何度か Philips のサーバに問い合わせに行ってはいる(www.ecdinterface.philips.com に POST /perl/ecdaudio してる)けど内容がよく分からない。トホホ... orz64 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/06 23 20 35 ID 7ctEKLel Radio Free Virgin の方もお願いします。65 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/06 23 58 18 ID /3ab/ujg wGateのランダム選局みたいにphilipsのサーバでcgi動かしてmp3ファイルをランダムに再生してるのかな。ところで、yahoo側のポート番号はわかりますか。8000番は玉砕orz66 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/07 00 17 43 ID u23uVkVr 普通に標準の 80。67 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/03/07 21 31 50 ID B2D0601f gt; gt;64RadioFreeVirgin で適当な局に合わせて出た URL がこれ。たぶんみんなしばらくは聞けると思う。http //66.28.254.240/d4/d1/d8/d6/314186_64p.MP3ホスト名は逆引きできない。Whois によると、Cogent Communications とか出るけどね。http //whois.ansi.co.jp/?key=66.28.254.24068 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/03/07 21 36 44 ID B2D0601f そんなこんなで LAUNCHcast@Yahoo! も RadioFreeVirgin もPC には Windows Media type で送ってるくせにStreamium には mp3 ファイル(ストリームではない?)で送ってる、というのが分かった。で、新BiBio ユーザさんなどが利用する際の問題はどうやってこれらの URL を知るかなんだよね。今の状態じゃ、とある1チャネルのとある1曲しか分かってない。まだまだ解析が必要っす... orz69 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/09 11 05 33 ID AbLNugdq Phil's Personal Wiki - Philips Streamiumhttp //wiki.teuwen.org/index.php/PhilipsStreamium70 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/10 21 16 18 ID AwEr+Isl gt;68RadioFreeVirginはちょっと規則性が見えてきた。MP3ファイルの番号だが、末尾が1か6のものが再生できるようだ。http //66.28.254.240/d3/d1/d1/d1/313111_64p.MP3http //66.28.254.240/d2/d1/d1/d6/312116_64p.MP3また、d0のディレクトリはないようだ。ファイル番号を自動生成する串でも作ればBibioでもいけるかも。71 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/10 21 53 37 ID AwEr+Isl Launchの方も番号をずらして調べたら、6358370-6358400のあいだで6358378,84,85,87,94がきけた。よくわからん72 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/03/11 18 39 12 ID XJG7X58X gt; gt;71 MC-i200 で選択できる LAUNCHcast@Yahoo の全チャネルから今日の夕方取った URL解析用にドウゾーAdult Alternativehttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot5/PubShare19/launchmp3/1/3276154.mp3Alternative Countryhttp //mp3content03.bcst.yahoo.com/proot1/PubShare04/launchmp3/1/6358329.mp3Alternative Rockhttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot2/PubShare08/launchmp3/10/6345397.mp3Blueshttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot6/PubShare23/launchmp3/15/6400165.mp3Classic R Bhttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot1/PubShare02/launchmp3/13/6357916.mp3Classic Rockhttp //mp3content03.bcst.yahoo.com/proot3/PubShare11/launchmp3/14/6349550.mp3Countryhttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot6/PubShare24/launchmp3/7/6410015.mp3Dancehttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/bmfroot02/BMFShare02/launchmp3/11/6790178.mp3Easy Jazzhttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot3/PubShare12/launchmp3/1/3405695.mp373 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/03/11 18 39 45 ID XJG7X58X つづき。Indie Eclectichttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot3/PubShare09/launchmp3/5/6358105.mp3Latin Rhythmhttp //mp3content03.bcst.yahoo.com/proot4/PubShare14/launchmp3/12/6343664.mp3Metalhttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot2/PubShare08/launchmp3/3/6345485.mp3Pophttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot3/PubShare10/launchmp3/9/6375951.mp3Punkhttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot4/PubShare13/launchmp3/11/6377263.mp3R Bhttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot4/PubShare14/launchmp3/4/6345530.mp3Raphttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot2/PubShare07/launchmp3/0/6376002.mp3Reggaehttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot3/PubShare11/launchmp3/4/6391277.mp3Rockhttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot6/PubShare22/launchmp3/5/6399979.mp3Straight Ahead Jazzhttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot4/PubShare14/launchmp3/12/6384349.mp3Today's Big Hitshttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot2/PubShare06/launchmp3/3/6358172.mp374 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/03/11 18 42 56 ID XJG7X58X LAUNCHcast@Yahoo は 20チャネルくらいだからやったけどRadioFreeVirgin は 50くらいあるから全部をやる気はでない...まぁ、ぼちぼちやります。ご要望があればください。よろしくおながいします。75 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/12 00 49 42 ID 1zSNCIkA gt; gt;70を参考に作ったプレイリスト全曲が再生できるかは不明http //rs5.net/up/80842759.m3u76 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/12 07 57 27 ID mIwKWko8 gt; gt;75最初の50曲ほどは全部聞けた。乙 gt; gt;74Bluesのファイルの番号の切れの良いところ、6400000-6400200まで順番につないだところ、末尾三桁の013,067,158,160,162,165,179,184,192がきけた。規則的に割り当てているようには見えないし、ファイル番号が近くても曲のジャンルはバラバラのようだ。てごわいぞ。77 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/03/12 08 39 55 ID n6ly781L そうでつね。 gt; gt;63 に書いたようにこれらの URL をもらう前段階に「このチャネルを聞きたい」と Streamium が言ったときどんな要求を philips のサーバに送ったかも見ないといけないんですわ。一応、要求したパケットの中身も見てはいます。これが平文ならいいんですが、そうじゃないのでバイナリ解析が必要なんです。チョトムリポ... orz78 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/12 09 15 51 ID n6ly781L ここ gt; gt;1さん以外にStreamium持ってる人いるの?BiBioユーザが集まってるような希ガス(ry79 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/12 15 14 32 ID YEdgLh2A gt; gt;75私も RFV のプレイリストを作ってみました。シェル・スクリプト書いて 404 が返ってこないリンクだけ書き出したらちょうど 800 になりました。ttp //rs5.net/up/32522741.m3u80 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/14 21 40 19 ID zZ6BAyXQ とりあえず現時点で聴ける 300 曲ほどの Launch のプレイリストをアップしてみました。(今夜半過ぎに削除予定)ttp //rs5.net/up/99693112.m3uLaunch はファイル名が同じ場合サーバやパスの違いに関わらず全く同じ曲ファイルになるみたいですね。あとパラメータとして "StreamID=xxxxxxx" を付加した方が聴ける曲が増えるようです。81 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/14 22 08 39 ID CaDA7NBH ぐっじょぶ総当たり攻撃乙82 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/14 22 21 08 ID zZ6BAyXQ ほとんど DoS 攻撃しているようなものですからね(^^;;;83 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 05/03/14 22 47 10 ID +mlx+dUH みなさんの情熱には頭が下がりまっす。ウチで MC-i200 で聞く分にはアーチスト名と曲名が表示されるんです。URL からの MP3 では出ない。それが残念というかなんというか。ところでみなさん BiBio ユーザっすか?84 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/16 13 10 11 ID JYdwltM0 Launch で mp3 プレーヤでは再生できない mp3 ファイルにしては巨大なファイル発見。"Content-Type video/quicktime" なのでどうも動画ファイルらしい。ttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot6/PubShare22/launchmp3/5/6400147.mp3?StreamID=6400147試しに拡張子を ".mov" にしてもリンクは有効、というより本来はそうするべきなのだろう。ttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot6/PubShare22/launchmp3/5/6400147.mov?StreamID=6400147ってことで映画の予告編?が QuickTime Player で視聴できました。85 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/18 13 45 00 ID 89CP1Ikf 何が配信されるか開けるまで分からん訳ですな86 名無しさん@3周年 05/03/18 14 14 06 ID /gpdBfrn gt; gt;85シェル・スクリプトで有効なリンクを得るのに "HTTP/1.1 200 OK" をチェックしているんですが、"Content-Type audio/mpeg" をチェックするようにすれば良いだけなんですけどね。curl -I http //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot6/PubShare22/launchmp3/5/6400147.mov?StreamID=640014787 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 2005/03/29(火) 23 17 52 ID tsvSu7n3 このところ Streamium からの Gracenote CDDB 利用が調子悪くてどんな洋楽 CD も認識されなくてまいっちんぐ88 名無しさん@3周年 2005/04/06(水) 06 14 28 ID mFO36x7l もう Streamium とは直接関係ないことですが、LaunchCast に関してちょっとしたミスから興味深いことを発見しました。ttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/proot2/PubShare08/launchmp3/10/6344737.mp3?StreamID=6344737ttp //mp3content03.bcst.yahoo.com/proot4/PubShare14/launchmp3/12/6344745.mp3?StreamID=6344745上の二つの URL はそれぞれttp //mp3content02.bcst.yahoo.com/*/.mp3?StreamID=6344737ttp //mp3content03.bcst.yahoo.com/*/.mp3?StreamID=6344745でアクセスできます。"*" は多分 ASCII なら何でも(*, ,+ とかでも OK)何文字でも関係ないようです。ディレクトリ違いで同じファイルがいくつも登録されてるのがちょっと不思議だったのですが、これで少しナゾが解けたような気がします。89 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 2005/04/14(木) 14 23 09 ID tLwbrL8K CDDB の件はなんとか戻ったみたい。My.Philips.com が知らん間に Club Philips とかに変わってユーザイターフェイスがまったく違うものになってしまった。なぜか My stream がメンテできなくて困ってます。う~やりにくいなぁ。ユーザレビュー更新する気がうせた。90 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 2005/04/27(水) 22 26 35 ID WJ243l4h BiBio スレ見てて LINKSYS の WMLS11B 気になったんだけどhttp //hobby5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dgoods/1032911698/497nこいつは PC のサーバには Musicmatch 使うらしいから同じく Musicmatch 使える Streamium 環境に簡単に加えれるな、と思ってみたり。なんのこっちゃない、UPnP 対応してるのはみんなそうか... orz91 名無しさん@3周年 2005/05/10(火) 02 17 24 ID +fdEZAHH 【世界でのデジタル家電商品も日本2メーカーVS韓国2メーカーの激突!】Panasonic(売上高8兆7136億)世界最大の家電メーカー VS SHARP(売上高2兆5398億)太陽光発電パネル首位 VS SAMSUNG(売上高5兆7600億)韓国No.1 VS LG(2兆4659億)韓国No.2。 【プラズマTVの世界シェア】1位Panasonic 日本と中国でシェア40%、アメリカでシェア30%で1位。欧州でも二桁のシェア。2位LG(韓国) アメリカ、ヨーロッパでシェア2位。 3位SAMSUNG(韓国) 3位に転落。4位PHILIPS(オランダ) ヨーロッパでシェア1位。【液晶TVの世界シェア】1位SAMSUNG(韓国)2位LG(韓国) 【アメリカでの液晶TVシェア】1位シャープ2位Panasonic3位syntax【DVDレコーダー世界シェア】1位Panasonic 92 名無しさん@3周年 2005/05/10(火) 21 47 25 ID oXquSoDg gt; gt;91それって他のスレで間違っているって指摘されてたな。93 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 2005/05/19(木) 23 08 36 ID RPfQ7NRS Streamium から Radioio が利用可能になりますた。ジャンル数少ないので、またそのうちパケットキャプチャしてURLとります。あと、同じタイミングで Philips Media Manager もVersion 3.2.1.0004 にアップデートされますた。94 名無しさん@3周年 2005/05/19(木) 23 56 21 ID 9wkdkoPl gt; gt;93radioio の URL は 128Kb ストリームの 15 チャンネル分全てが判明しています。詳しくは以下のスレを参照。 gt;ネットラジオ端末「BiBio」ttp //hobby5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dgoods/1032911698/389-39495 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 2005/05/20(金) 12 40 52 ID PTeqxiTn おお、㌧クスです。ノーチェックですた。96 名無しさん@3周年 2005/05/20(金) 13 01 17 ID ZOl4HFpa gt; gt;95Streamium だと radioio の 70sPop、80sPop、Country チャンネルでも曲のタイトルとアーティスト名の表示はされるのでしょうか?もし表示されるのなら Streamium 買いたいなぁ。97 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 2005/05/20(金) 13 41 20 ID PTeqxiTn 少なくとも昨日の夜、Country 聞いた状態では曲名、アーチスト名ともに出てませんですた。将来どうかは分かりませんが...98 名無しさん@3周年 2005/05/21(土) 03 08 05 ID 0misaxLB やはり表示されないのねorz99 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 2005/05/21(土) 23 36 33 ID nzdGT1/e radioio と同じ Streamium サービスでもLAUNCHcast と Radio Free Virgin はアーチスト名、曲名ともに出てるだけに残念。つーか、 My Streams に手動登録したSHOUTcast とかのストリームでアーチスト名、曲名ともに出ないっていうのは問題アリだなぁ。100 名無しさん@3周年 2005/05/22(日) 01 33 45 ID Bf76epa4 radioio の他の 12 のチャンネルではちゃんと表示されるでしょ?去年新たに開始された三つのチャンネルではStreamTitle='Buckingham Nicks - Crystal'といった曲情報データを流さなくなっちゃったんだよね。101 y-katow lt;/b gt;◆s7R1j4AgxU lt;b gt; 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